Ian Esplen: Tanev Signed

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- annoyance_101

Interesting.

Wonder if they will have room to re-sign Johansson. I'd offer sheet him with whatever cap Vancouver has left and see what happens.

I don't mind 1.5 on a one year deal. While the 1.5 is more then I thought Tanev was going to get, He has one year to prove himself and try and cash in on a long term deal next year.

Interesting.

Wonder if they will have room to re-sign Johansson. I'd offer sheet him with whatever cap Vancouver has left and see what happens.
- IanEsplen

The problem with that is, the amount of money the Canucks could afford to throw at Johansson would be matched in a second.

$1.5m is too much IMO, but I don't really care how much any individual player earns as long as management can ice a competitive team under the cap.

Like the first 7 D, one of the strongest all around groups in the league I think, but the depth drops off pretty quick after that. An injury or two would really hurt them.

Would like to see

Hamhuis/Bieksa
Edler/Tanev
Garrison/Corrado

with a more even division of ice time.

What is interesting is the teams that are at or over the cap. Those are the teams I would be looking at to see if they wanted to unload some salary. Offersheeting just opens up a whole lot of trouble for yourself in the future.

I would like to see someone offersheet both Franson and Kadri at the same time.

$1.5m is too much IMO, but I don't really care how much any individual player earns as long as management can ice a competitive team under the cap.

Like the first 7 D, one of the strongest all around groups in the league I think, but the depth drops off pretty quick after that. An injury or two would really hurt them.

Would like to see

Hamhuis/Bieksa
Edler/Tanev
Garrison/Corrado

with a more even division of ice time.
- 1970vintage

I like your D pairs, and I think anyone you put with Hamhuis is going to look good. I am more hoping to see Garrison on #1 PP.

What is interesting is the teams that are at or over the cap. Those are the teams I would be looking at to see if they wanted to unload some salary. Offersheeting just opens up a whole lot of trouble for yourself in the future.

I would like to see someone offersheet both Franson and Kadri at the same time.
- immature_male

I wouldn't read too much into CapGeek, once you take LTIR into consideration the Flyers and Bruins are both well under, Detroit has 25 players counting against the cap and a couple guys notorious for injury and the Sharks and Kings are both very close to compliance. No one will be dumping quality players for nothing.

They don't have enough size or 'truculence' in that group of seven. Is Alberts the only remaining UFA option out there now that Murray and Fistric are gone?

Ian Esplen: Tanev Signed
- IanEsplen

How is it even a question if the whole Murray thing was a smokeshow or not? The report came out the day after Tanev pulled the KHL card.

I would agree that it's about $300k more than he deserves, given what a few other RFA D-men signed for, but he only got a 1 year deal where they got 2 yrs, so it's close enough not to complain. It's put up or shut up time for Tanev. Needs to contribute a little more offensively this season.

They don't have enough size or 'truculence' in that group of seven. Is Alberts the only remaining UFA option out there now that Murray and Fistric are gone?
- YeOldTimer

I wouldn't mind Alberts as the 7/8 guy at all, I thought he played pretty well for the Canucks last year.

I like your D pairs, and I think anyone you put with Hamhuis is going to look good. I am more hoping to see Garrison on #1 PP.
- immature_male

Absolutely!

PP#1
S. Sedin / H. Sedin / Kesler
Edler / Garrison

PP#2
Higgins / Schroeder / Burrows
Hamhuis / Bieksa

I wouldn't mind Alberts as the 7/8 guy at all, I thought he played pretty well for the Canucks last year.
- fiveandagame

Agreed, the devil you know

What is interesting is the teams that are at or over the cap. Those are the teams I would be looking at to see if they wanted to unload some salary. Offersheeting just opens up a whole lot of trouble for yourself in the future.

I would like to see someone offersheet both Franson and Kadri at the same time.
- immature_male

An offer sheet to Franson or Kadri would be matched unless it was a ridiculous amount of money, which would only hurt your own cap situation moving forward. If the Leafs had to trade someone else to fit them into the cap (Liles) they would just to not lose one of those players for nothing.

Offer sheets are very overrated.

An offer sheet to Franson or Kadri would be matched unless it was a ridiculous amount of money, which would only hurt your own cap situation moving forward. If the Leafs had to trade someone else to fit them into the cap (Liles) they would just to not lose one of those players for nothing.

Offer sheets are very overrated.
- KB3Point0

I think they should change the compensation model for players signing an offer sheet so that the starting point is a 1st round pick. I team A signs an RFA to an offer sheet they must believe that he is a bonafide NHL player. If only 50% of 1st round picks go on to play 200+ games in the NHL, then a 1st round pick as compensation as a starting point just makes sense.

IMO Tanev is super underrated.

Tanev >>> Murray.

Good signing.

I think they should change the compensation model for players signing an offer sheet so that the starting point is a 1st round pick. I team A signs an RFA to an offer sheet they must believe that he is a bonafide NHL player. If only 50% of 1st round picks go on to play 200+ games in the NHL, then a 1st round pick as compensation as a starting point just makes sense.
- 1970vintage

What?

IMO Tanev is super underrated.

Tanev >>> Murray.

Good signing.
- The-O-G

Yeah, Tanev is younger and way more mobile. If the Canucks feel they need a big body to clear the front of the net they can look at resigning Alberts as mentioned above.

hey Ian,

here is some info on your grabo thread from yesterday.

http://toomanymenonthesit...ki-to-sign-in-washington/

cheers.

Absolutely!

PP#1
S. Sedin / H. Sedin / Kesler
Edler / Garrison

PP#2
Higgins / Schroeder / Burrows
Hamhuis / Bieksa
- 1970vintage

Could be different this season, but I recall Garrison and Edler struggling together on the PP as 2 L shots. I would consider splitting up Garrison and Edler and partnering them with Corrado and Bieksa (or Weber if he's in the lineup). Could also try Schroeder there if he makes the team.

I wouldn't mind Alberts as the 7/8 guy at all, I thought he played pretty well for the Canucks last year.
- fiveandagame

Looked like his foot speed had improved significantly from when he first arrived in Vancouver.

I think they should change the compensation model for players signing an offer sheet so that the starting point is a 1st round pick. I team A signs an RFA to an offer sheet they must believe that he is a bonafide NHL player. If only 50% of 1st round picks go on to play 200+ games in the NHL, then a 1st round pick as compensation as a starting point just makes sense.
- 1970vintage

Would be interesting to see if that would increase the number of offer sheets because it was more likely that the other team might not match, or decrease them as the compensation would be higher. As they could theoretically offer that in a trade scenario today and avoid the offer sheet altogether I doubt it would change things very much.

I think they should change the compensation model for players signing an offer sheet so that the starting point is a 1st round pick. I team A signs an RFA to an offer sheet they must believe that he is a bonafide NHL player. If only 50% of 1st round picks go on to play 200+ games in the NHL, then a 1st round pick as compensation as a starting point just makes sense.
- 1970vintage

NHLPA has some say in this so what we'd like as fans to hold onto players we think are valuable may not match up with the players' desire to have at least some leverage.

Looked like his foot speed had improved significantly from when he first arrived in Vancouver.
- YeOldTimer

I could see Torts liking him too. Big guy, can kill penalties and block shots.

What?
- The-O-G

There is less likelihood that a team will match if the compensation is actually perceived to be of equal or greater value then the current player. So, first players like Tanev would never receive an offer sheet, it just wouldn't be worth it and second, teams wouldn't ALWAYS match an offer sheet.